Valeria:
Okay we are back from a short break. We have one of our very favorites as our first caller. Hello Mr. Zalvaski! You are very welcome to chat with us.
Iona:
Hey Mr. Zalvaski! Where have you been?
Mr. Zalvaski:
Hello ladies! I try calling in all the time Iona. Today was a successful day for me. I was able to get through the lines. I think this is a very uncomfortable conversation that we must have. I won’t give away my age but I grew up around the time of 1935. I have to say, I agree with a little bit of what all you fine folks have said. I am a Polish American man. I lived through the Great Depression in the 1930’s. Welfare was instituted after the Great Depression to help Americans get back on their feet. It was terrible. It really isn’t about race, it’s about class. Public assistance is for the poor and needy. If people need help we are supposed to help them! I was raised to help my fellow Americans if they need food, shelter and clothing! Now, if people want to take advantage of it, I don’t agree with that. I agree with Dr. Toussaint when he mentioned how God gives each and every one of us unique gifts and talents to help us better ourselves. If you don’t use the God-given talents you were blessed with, you might lose it. You might feel like you are stuck but you are not. You have to believe in your abilities. You have to take another chance, then another!
Dr. Toussaint:
Thank you very much for your comment Mr. Zalvaski. I wanted to know if you had something to say about black women and their dependence on public assistance. I kind of want to stick to the topic.
Mr. Zalvaski:
Sure well, I might not be able to give a lot of insight on black women and public assistance. I think I am a bit sheltered and secluded from that topic specifically. Most of the families I know who benefited from welfare the most are white and were white folks. I have lived side by side with black families and none of them are on welfare. I try to comment on what I know Dr. Toussaint. I do understand that a lot of folks want to comment so thank you ladies for allowing me this time. Good day sir!
Iona:
Thanks Mr. Zalvaski! You are always welcome to express yourself in how ever way you want to. I don’t think your comment was off topic considering your life experience. I bet your comment helped someone. Okay, our next caller is Marjorie. Marjorie you are very welcome to chat.
Marjorie:
I have two things to add. Number one, I agree 100% with Dr. Toussaint and Mr. Zalvaski. I can only go by my own experience because I do not wish to comment otherwise. I was married and my husband passed away unexpectedly. I was left with four children to raise alone. I was instantly a single mother. I was devastated. My husband was the breadwinner. I worked in education. My schedule was perfect because when my kids at my school got out I was able to pick up my own kids from their school. The insurance money played a major role in us being able to live in our home comfortably. I was able to pay all of the bills and put aside money for our children’s college education. I was a little short with money for food so I had to apply for public assistance to feed my family. I stayed on public assistance for about 3 years. I don’t understand how some people can endure it longer than that. Some of the people in those places often mistreat the recipients but that is another topic. I started tutoring a few students at my school and that turned into a business. I own my own tutoring company and I employ about 20 other people. I used the gifts and talents God blessed me with to help others and myself. I needed the service but I did not stay on it. I wanted better for my life and my kids. I sacrifice my time and talents and it paid off big time. Yes, I believed in myself.
Trisha:
That is an awesome, amazing story. You are an inspiration! Thank you Marjorie for calling in.
Marjorie:
I do understand we are pressed for time but I also wanted to add how I employed two of the women who were on welfare for years. They were very bright ladies. They work for me now and they are getting their degrees in education. The other thing I wanted to add was concerning Dr. Toussaint. I really felt that you were a little undiplomatic to Mr. Zalvaski. Please watch yourself.
Dr. Toussaint:
Now, that is what I am talking about. How did that come about; you employing the two young ladies that were on public assistance? I do agree with you about Mr. Zalvaski and will do better.
Marjorie:
I was tutoring their daughters at my school and working on an exit plan to get my own thing together. I am very sociable so I would try to have a little gathering at the school to encourage the parents to get more involved with their children academically. I met them at one of our gatherings and got to know their situations. Ironically these two women were drowning in their own pain. They were having babies with relentless men and lived unstable lives. I saw something in them. They wanted something better. I pushed them into the greatness that was already there. (Pauses)…Sorry, I get so emotional when I talk about this. One thing led to the next and here we are.
Valeria:
We wish you much success! Okay time is ticking and we have so many callers who want to comment. Next up is Douglas. Hey Douglas. You are very welcome to chat, my brother!
Douglas:
Thank you very much. I will keep my comment short and sweet. I agree with Kayla. I think Iona was very unprofessional to state that Kayla could not comment because she is a white woman. Whether you like it or not, everyone is entitled to comment. It is their opinion. Iona you really need to apologize for dissing her on the air like that.
Kayla:
Thanks Douglas for your support and comment! We have another caller. I hope I am pronouncing your name right. Is it Yeeki or it is Yeki. Okay, Thanks Constance. Yeki you are welcome to chat.
Yeki:
Yes, hello sisters! I am from Nigeria. I don’t understand some of these American women. In my country we don’t allow this. It is very rare to find a woman without her husband. We believe in marriage first. I agree with Valeria. I don’t understand how or why an American black woman will continue to allow herself to be used and abused by men and dependent on a welfare system that keeps her lowly. Sisters, you have the power to rise!
Trisha:
Thank you so much for your comment Yeki. We have a Robert patiently waiting to speak. You are welcome to chat Robert.
Robert:
I agree with Dr. Toussaint. I have a cousin who does exactly what he talked about. She wasn’t raised to depend on public assistance. All of my aunts, sisters and other female family members do not agree with her lifestyle. It’s not like she hasn’t had the best examples. We try to help her get jobs and to better her environment but she will NOT take our help. She has 5 kids by five different men. She is only twenty-six. None of the men are in their life. It’s disgusting and it hurts us as a family. Some people like what they do. Some people don’t want any help.
Dr. Toussaint:
It sounds like she is depressed. Is she abusing some type of drug?
Robert:
Nope. People always ask that. Well, not to my knowledge. I believe she got hooked up with the wrong group of people. There are certain black women who bring their own communities down with their choices and behavior. It may not be you but it is out there. Dr. Toussaint is right. My cousin is very smart. She can draw her but off. She loves her lifestyle.
Iona:
Well if she is depressed that is the reason why she is acting out. We really don’t know but we have another caller.
Justine:
Hello my name is Justine. I am fifteen. My mom needs help. I was wondering if Dr. Toussaint can help me…well my family. My mom is on public assistance. She has a lot of issues. I believe she wants to do better but she needs some kind of help. I am the oldest of three other kids. I believe in a lot of what Dr. Toussaint has said because I live it every day and I am tired of it.
Dr. Toussaint:
Justine, please don’t say anything else on the air. I am going to call you after the show and see what I can do. I am certain to get you some help. Don’t hang up.
Valeria:
Yes, don’t hang up sweetheart! We are going to help you. Please hold on for a few seconds and we will get all of your information.
Justine: (Crying nervously)
Okay…okay! Thank you all so much!
Constance:
You never know what can happen and what kind of callers we will encounter on this show. Kayla thank you so much for taking down his information and using your expertise to further assistance Justine. We have another caller. China Doll, you are very welcome to chat.
China Doll:
I just want to say that as a black woman, we represent and work hard. Not all of us are on public assistance. Not all of us depend on a MAN! We work with our men to build with them and to help them grow higher if we have them in our life! We represent a wealth of women who are not dependent on a system that was not created for us. We are independent women; independently driven to make a difference in our communities. We do it every day! Thanks!
Iona:
Right on sister soldier! I feel her! We have to keep this passion going. BJ you are up. You are very welcome to chat BJ.
BJ:
I feel very welcome when you say it like that Iona. I just want to co-sign on what the last caller said. I believe her name was China Doll. It is very important on a platform like this, that we emphasize the relevance of black women who are shaping their communities and lives in a positive way. Black women represent very well. I understand Dr. Toussaint stance on those black women who choose not to use their gift and talents to live in their purpose.
Iona:
Is it me or was BJ getting his flirt on with me. Thanks for calling in BJ. Tony you are very welcome to chat, my brother!
Tony:
I know the topic is about black women and the bad choices they make. I really enjoyed listening to the woman who called earlier. She was able to not only build her business but she also pulled two other ladies up with her. Maybe this is something you can start doing Dr. Toussaint. You talk a lot about these women but to me you haven’t giving a lot of solutions other than them using their God-given talents. That is not good enough. What are you doing? What have you done?
Dr. Toussaint:
Thank you for your comment Tony. I am working on solutions that would help these particular women understand how they have the power to change their own lives.
Kayla:
We have to keep it moving as we only have about 45 minutes left in our show. Hello Nicholas, you are very welcome to chat.
Nicholas:
Dr. Toussaint might be on to something. I know a lot of females black and white who fit his description. All they want to do is party and have babies by men who are no good for them. The areas they live in are infested with high crime, drugs and domestic violence. As someone said earlier, some folks don’t want help.
Valeria:
Thank you Nicholas. Musa you’re up next. You are very welcome to chat.
Musa:
All I know is those type of black women are good for business. Hey, they’re not the only people in America who use and abuse the system. What about corporate welfare. What about criminal welfare and spiritual welfare. I pray it never stops. They keep my pockets fat; in the clubs and on these streets. Peace!
Iona:
Well, Musa is a big time narcotics dealer. I bet that is not even his real name. Lord have mercy! Charisa you’re up next. You are welcome to chat!
Charisa:
I just want to say to any of the black women who are listening to this show that you are somebody. I was a young girl who lived off of welfare for years. My grandmother was on it, my aunts and mom was on it so I joined the club. I had 3 kids before I was 21. I am now 31. I changed the history of my bloodline and you can do it to. If you are hurting and want to move forward with a new life please give me a call. I am part of an organization that works to help reform you. I will leave my number with one of the sisters off air. Thank you.
Trisha:
I really like the fact that we have a wide audience of callers who are being part of the solution. This is what it is all about. Thanks guys! Lerone you are very welcome to chat with us.
Lerone:
I was calling in to commend all those callers who are offering assistance to the listeners which is more than Dr. Toussaint has done. He seems to be all talk and no solutions.
Iona:
I can’t say I disagree but our next caller is Erica. You are very welcome to chat Erica.
Erica:
I have to say I disagree with the folks who insist on saying that people don’t want to get help and like what they are doing. That makes no sense! If these individual black women have mental issues or deep depression they are not in their right judgment to say that they don’t need your help. They don’t know what they need. I understand you can’t make a person do anything but this does not mean give up on them!
Dr. Toussaint:
No…no…no! We will never give up on them Erica!
Kayla:
Thank you for your comment Erica. Zyiar is on the line. You are welcome to chat with us.
Zyiar:
I agree with Valeria. If you continue doing something stupid like having babies by men who don’t love you enough to help you raise your kids you deserve what you get. Black women who allow this get what they put out into the world. It is their own fault!
Valeria:
I don’t agree with all of that Zyiar. You seem rather young but you are entitled to your opinion. Tremesa you are welcome to chat.
Tremesa:
It is not about giving up on black women. This is about those black women who make their communities hard to live in by continuing a bad pattern. It is about them taking responsibility for their own actions. It is about them growing up. Earlier a young boy name Justine was breaking down crying because of his mother’s trifling lifestyle. I hope they are listening to this show because they need to do better.
Trisha:
Thanks Tremesa for commenting. We have another caller Mr. Lord. You are very welcome to chat with us.
Lord:
It is Lord not Mr. Lord, just Lord please and thank you. I just want to say that our black women are hurting. They are the most disrespected and neglected group of women in America. Dr. Toussaint is doing nothing but trying to bring them down. Dr. Toussaint is exploiting them not helping them. America has way too much dirty laundry than a few black women hooked on a welfare system that they purposely created to enslave the black woman.
Iona:
Well, Dr. Toussaint says he does not want to comment behind Lord. We have all of our lines overheating. Kendra you are up girl. You are welcome to chat. Kemaa is going to call in next watch. I know my callers.
Kendra:
What’s up Iona and hello to all of the sisters. I don’t agree with Dr. Toussaint. I think your focus is way off. I believe we live in a rich country. America has money. America is not going to crash because a few black women are doing what they have been trained to do; abuse and destroy.
Iona:
Thank you Kendra. Kemaa is on the line. You know they are twins right? Kemaa go soft on us. You are welcome to chat.
Kemaa:
We are becoming the land of liberty in mass shootings. We kill, still and destroy lives with mass shooting yet Dr. Toussaint is concerned about a small percent of black women who are dependent on public assistance. What kind of legislation do you propose to help fix a welfare system? The poor and needy will always be with us. Boy Bye! I don’t agree with you!
Valeria:
Thank you Kemaa. We have Mya on the line. You are very welcome to chat Mya.
Mya:
I hope a change can come where we as a society can help people instead of harming people and belittling people. I think everyone’s voice should be respected.
Iona:
Thank you Mya! We only have a few minutes left. You are welcome to chat Annatelya. Your name is so pretty.
Annatelya:
I agree with Valeria! Iona I do not like what you said to Kayla either.
Kayla:
Thanks for your comment. Please call again Annatelya! We have a Romeo. You are very welcome to chat.
Romeo:
Some of you are so full of contradiction. If Iona feels that Kayla has no background knowledge to comment on black women then that is her choice to say. If we are going to respect one another’s opinion, let’s do it then. I think a human being is able to comment on any topic and give their opinion. If you agree or disagree, let’s agree to do that respectfully. As a people and as a country, we all need to get our stuff together.
Constance:
Thank you Romeo. We have to keep it moving as we only have a few minutes. Some folks may not be able to comment. Sorry guys. This topic has a huge audience. Lil Mama you are up. You are welcome to chat after Donald. Go ahead Donald.
Donald:
What was that last caller talking about? Can we please stay on the topic? I think those black women who are using and abusing welfare are making their communities go down. I agree with Dr. Toussaint. They really need to wake up!
Lil Mama:
I want to let the audience know that I was on public assistance for five years. I had two kids at the time but I was also in a program that was helping me pay for my education. I agree with Dr. Toussaint. I did want to have a healthier life for me and my kids. I had a lot of support and plenty of prayer. I made a mistake of having babies by two men who didn’t care less about me. I didn’t love myself. Now I adore me. Thank you.
Trisha:
Thanks you Lil Mama and Donald. We will continue to try to take as many calls as we can. Barry will be up next and then following him will be Sushae. You both are welcome to chat.
Barry:
You know what, out of all of the callers and comments Lil Mama hit a homerun to me. She said she had a lot of support and a lot or prayer surrounding her. That is my comment!
Sushae:
Hello…am I on the air? Oh, okay, well my comment is that I do not agree with Dr. Toussaint. There is more things in the world to fight against than black women on welfare. I also would like to say to Iona that Kayla or anyone else has the right to their opinion whether you agree to it or not. You let your personal feelings make you look very foolish.
Kayla:
Thank you to Barry and Sushae. Up next we have Carolyn and Tnukema on the lines. You are very welcome to chat with us. Please make it quick as we are going off the ear in a few more minutes.
Carolyn:
I think supporting all of our young women who feel that they are stuck on a system that gets them nowhere is the key. Prayer can never hurt either. I would like to offer my social services to any young women who want my help. I will leave my number with one of the sisters off the air as well. Thank you.
Tnukema:
I am thankful for this platform. I agree with Dr. Toussaint but most importantly I understand it is not hard to leave a lifestyle you have succumbed to all of your life. I pray that individuals who need help will receive it and those with solutions will step up more. Thank you.
Constance, Iona, Valeria, Trisha, Kayla:
That wraps up our Circle. Please join us next week (April 2018) for our next Sister Circle Girlfriend Chats!
Disclaimer: The opinions and views expressed in all of the characters and the advice is not real. It is fiction.